[KB] other 1980s conferences with KB
sjmaillo
sjmaillo at uci.edu
Tue Nov 13 17:47:13 EST 2018
Ed, Bob, Herb, and others,
Since you are talking about Burke at a 1984 conference, I was wondering
if anyone out there has notes on or memories about another 1980s
conference: the April 1988 Colloquium on Kenneth Burke and Martin
Heidegger, organized by Don Burks. Don was kind enough to share some
memories a few years ago, but I'm returning to the topic in some recent
researching.
Thanks!
Steve Mailloux
On 2018-11-13 13:39, wessr at oregonstate.edu wrote:
> Ed,
>
> I checked my copy of the 1984 program. The conference was at the
> Bellevue Stratford. You're right about that.
>
> Nelson appeared in one of the plenaries. The chair of his panel was
> Charles Dyke. His fellow panelist was David Damrosch.
>
> Bennett also appeared in a plenary. His chair: Joseph Margolis. His
> fellow panelist: Joseph Gusfield.
>
> Your memory may be better than mine.
>
> Bob
>
>
> Quoting Edward C Appel <edwardcappel at frontier.com>:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I don't remember Burke's interrupting Nelson. If he did so, Burke
>> surely did not launch into a screed against what Nelson was saying.
>> Could that have happened in one of the seminars?
>>
>> For sure, Burke did verbally attack Bennett. I got intersubjective
>> support for that recollection from David Cratis Williams at last
>> year's Triennial. I brought up that example of "feisty Burke" at our
>> plenary "Memories of Burke" meeting. David gave us the "back story"
>> on the matter. Burke was asked his opinion of the papers submitted,
>> this even before the convention began, I believe. Burke said he liked
>> them all except one. Who submitted that one, Burke was asked. "Lance,
>> Lance, Lance," was Burke's reply
>>
>> I remember Bennett looking down at his ms. in obvious embarrassment,
>> as Burke railed on, then, after Burke had got it all our of his
>> spleen, continuing on without a word in response to Burke.
>>
>> We remember the unexpected, the unusual, the harrowingly
>> out-of-the-ordinary,Chip and Dan Heath of Stanford said in their
>> book, Make It Stick. Professor Blasy Ford explained it well in her
>> Senate testimony. There's a rush of norepinephrine and another
>> neurochemical whose name escapes me into the hippocampus in such
>> moments. We don';t forget them.
>>
>> I don't remember who spoke before, or spoke after, Lance Bennett.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed . .
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Mon, 11/12/18, <wessr at oregonstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [KB] Your papers
>> To: "Edward C Appel" <edwardcappel at frontier.com>
>> Cc: "Robert Craig" <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>, "David C. Williams"
>> <dcwill at fau.edu>, "HERBERT W. Simons" <hsimons at temple.edu>,
>> p.mass at verizon.net, kb at kbjournal.org, "Fahy" <cdfahy at gmail.com>,
>> "Kathleen Hall Jamieson" <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>, "elanah naftali"
>> <elanah.naftali at gmail.com>
>> Date: Monday, November 12, 2018, 9:12 PM
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Ed, my
>> memory is that Burke interrupted Cary Nelson. He wanted Cary
>> to
>> explain poststructuralism in a more
>> intelligible way. Maybe I'm wrong,
>> but that is my memory.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> Quoting Edward C Appel <edwardcappel at frontier.com>:
>>
>> > Herb,
>> >
>> > That March, 1984,
>> Conference on Discourse Analysis, under the aegis
>> > of Temple University, was held at the
>> Bellevue Stratford, top floor
>> > as I
>> recall. It was a wonderful event, with feisty Burke standing
>> up
>> > and interrupting Lance Bennett
>> with a blistering tirade in the
>> >
>> middle of Bennett's presentation. Powerful plenary
>> lectures and
>> > excellent seminars. I
>> recall, too, postprandial addresses by both
>> > Jamieson and---forgive me, I'm an old
>> guy, the Burke scholar at
>> > Colorado,
>> his name now escapes me.
>> >
>> > The superb panel speeches last year at
>> East Stroudsburg involving
>> > the
>> young'uns bodes well for the future of Burke studies.
>> >
>> > You and Trevor did a
>> great job on that gathering, and on the book that ensued
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> --------------------------------------------
>> > On Mon, 11/12/18, HERBERT W. Simons <hsimons at temple.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject:
>> [KB] Your papers
>> > To: "Robert
>> Craig" <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>,
>> "David C. Williams"
>> > <dcwill at fau.edu>
>> > Cc: p.mass at verizon.net,
>> kb at kbjournal.org,
>> "Fahy"
>> > <cdfahy at gmail.com>,
>> "Kathleen Hall Jamieson"
>> >
>> <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>,
>> "elanah naftali" <elanah.naftali at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Monday, November 12, 2018, 8:44
>> AM
>> >
>> > Dear
>> colleagues,I'd like to have e-mailed
>> > copies of your papers.
>> > At the Burke "parlor"
>> > meeting 10-12 young people as well as
>> Roundtree and Thames
>> > convened to
>> discuss matters Burkean. I played the old man
>> > and regaled them with memories of that
>> first Burke
>> > conference: e.g.,
>> the charlatan "doctor" who
>> >
>> attached himself to KB at the Williams conference,
>> moved
>> > in with him, and helped him
>> navigate steps. We registered
>> > him and
>> didn't charge him the entry fee, at his
>> > request.
>> > It
>> turned out that he was a
>> > collector of
>> important people, as our friend, Chris Fahy,
>> > revealed to me.
>> >
>> KB's daughter, Eleanor Leacock
>> >
>> (sp?) was furious at me for entrusting KB to this
>> > imposter. When asked whether he'd
>> like the pseudo-doc to
>> > be moved from
>> his room, he said yes for the man's sake
>> > since he had work to do.
>> > I'd forgotten how many in our
>> > field attended that first conference and
>> participated in
>> > it's small group
>> seminars as well as it's plenaries,
>> > at which a recurrent question was about
>> "not vicious
>> > but mistaken"
>> and the issue of warrantable
>> >
>> outrage.
>> > Note: I've got a book
>> in
>> > production called Rhetoric in
>> Action, which will be made
>> > available
>> at no cost. Several of its essays are on my
>> > website, which can be found by googllng
>> my name.
>> > Psychologist Ken Gergen
>> superintended the project.
>> > Richard
>> Thames recalled that it was
>> > held at
>> the Bellevue Stratford Hotel in Phila but I
>> > recall that it was the Barclay, an older
>> hotel.In deference to KB with his
>> >
>> drinking problem we served grape juice at the banquet.
>> > Kathleen Jamieson's toast:
>> > "Language may do our thinking
>> > for us but it cannot do our drinking for
>> us." As for
>> > the "doc",
>> he spent the night in a bathtub,
>> >
>> compliments of the organizers. On the last night of the
>> > conference, when the KB Society was
>> formed. he approached
>> > Harry
>> Chapin's wife with a hug and she reciprocated
>> > diplomatically, not knowing what else to
>> do.
>> > I can't say enough about
>> the
>> > young scholars who participated
>> in the NCA convention's
>> >
>> "Burke Parlor." For those concerned about the
>> > future of Burke studies, rest assured,
>> this next generation
>> > is highly
>> competent and motivated.
>> > Note:
>> I've got a book in
>> > production
>> called Rhetoric in Action, which will be made
>> > available at no cost. Several of its
>> essays are on my
>> > website, which can
>> be found by googllng my name.
>> >
>> Psychologist Ken Gergen superintended the project.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Herbert
>> > W.
>> Simons, Ph.D.
>> > Emeritus Professor of
>> Communication
>> > Dep't of
>> Strategic Communication, Weiss Hall 215
>> > Temple University, Philadelphia 19122
>> > Home phone: 215 844 5969
>> > http://astro.temple.edu/~hsimons
>> > Academic Fellow, Center for
>> Transformative Strategic
>> > Initiatives
>> (CTSI)
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> > KB mailing list
>> >
>> KB at kbjournal.org
>> > http://kbjournal.org/mailman/listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org
>> >
>> > -----Inline
>> Attachment Follows-----
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> > KB mailing list
>> > KB at kbjournal.org
>> > http://kbjournal.org/mailman/listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org
>> >
>>
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> KB mailing list
>> KB at kbjournal.org
>> http://kbjournal.org/mailman/listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> KB mailing list
> KB at kbjournal.org
> http://kbjournal.org/mailman/listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org
More information about the KB
mailing list