<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Some were baffled by Burke’s approach, but it was interesting to see him treated seriously by historians. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:45 AM, HERBERT W. Simons <<a href="mailto:hsimons@temple.edu" class="">hsimons@temple.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Must have been great fun.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 7:49 PM, David Spiech <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:davespiech@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">davespiech@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">I sat in on that session. There were about 20 people, as I recall, and they did a close reading of ATH.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">David Spiech</div></font></span></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 15:38 Edward C Appel <<a href="mailto:edwardcappel@frontier.com" target="_blank" class="">edwardcappel@frontier.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4432" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4433" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">Burkophiles,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4432" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4435" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4436" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          Surfing
the net via Google, I somehow came across an article entitled, “’How
Delightfully Awful’: Reflections on Kenneth Burke’s ‘Linguistic Approach to
Problems of Education,’” by Andrew Hartman of, as I recall, Belmont University.
It’s a really good piece. Hartman summarizes well Burke’s chapter in that 1955
book on philosophy and education, and applies Burke’s insights to a 1950
critique of <i id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4437" class="">Huckleberry Finn</i> by
Lionel Trilling. Hartman was blogging on a site, <a href="http://s-usih.com" class="">S-USIH.com</a>, owned by the
Society for United States Intellectual History.  I had never heard of this group before. Posting
on 6/3/15, Hartman alluded to a then-recent conference the society had had in
Indianapolis, in which discussion of Burke was a part. Most intriguing, Hartman
made reference to a “Burke Week” on the blog held shortly thereafter. He gave a
link to one of the papers, or blog posts, in that series.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4435" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4439" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4440" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          That
link brought up the introductory post to “Burke Week,” early November, 2014:
“Blogging Kenneth Burke’s <i id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4441" class="">Attitudes
Toward History</i>: The Introductory Post,” by Ben Alpers, 11/10/14, another
well-taken probe. Alluding to all the brilliant passages in the tome he’d not
have time or space to quote, Alpers basically takes issue only with the title
of <i id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4442" class="">ATH</i>. Alpers suggests three
alternatives:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4439" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4444" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4445" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “Attitudes
Toward the Incessant Intermingling of Conservatism and Progress.”<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4444" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4447" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4448" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “Statements
of Policy on Problems of Organizational Behavior.”<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4447" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4450" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4451" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “Manual
of Terms for a Public Relations Council with Heart.”<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4450" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4453" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4454" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          Alpers
praises the way Burke ties things all together in the six-page conclusion,
quirky arrangement of the book, or not.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4453" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4456" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4457" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          In a
post of reaction to that introductory blog, Paul Kern says look at <i id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4458" class="">Attitudes</i> as a manual or introductory
guide to life, as indeed, “Equipment for Living.” Kern adds this warning as
addendum to the title: “REMEMBER: READ THE WHOLE MANUAL BEFORE USING THIS
PRODUCT. All the parts and pieces tend to overlap and inter-join,” culminating
with Burke’s bottom line, “By proper discounting, everything becomes usable.”<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4456" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4460" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4461" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          The
four follow-up posts for “Burke Week” were:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4460" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4463" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4464" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “Kenneth
Burke’s Frames of Acceptance.” By Andrew Hartman, 11/12/14.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4463" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4466" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4467" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “Identifying
Burke,” by Bill Fine, 11/13/14.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4466" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4469" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4470" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “Kenneth
Burke and Self-Help,” by Andy Seal, 11/14/14.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4469" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4472" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4473" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “WWBD!
The Cash Value of Kenneth Burke as Historical Theorist,” by Tim Lacy, 11/15/14.</span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4472" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4578" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%" class="">Indeed,
“What Would Burke Do?” We’ve all asked that question a time or two.</span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4472" class=""><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4478" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4479" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          Two
other posts I came across on the S-USIH site that touch on Burke:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4478" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4481" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4482" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “A
Specter Is Haunting American Studies,” by Andrew Hartman, 4/8/14.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4481" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4484" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4485" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          “The
Going Concern: Marx and Burke on Human History,” by Andy Seal, 10/17/16.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4484" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4487" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4488" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          Burke
seems to be alive and well even in places some of us didn’t know about.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4487" class=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4490" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4491" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4493" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4494" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          Ed<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4496" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4497" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4499" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4500" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4235" class="">











































</div><div id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4502" dir="ltr" class=""><span id="m_-5345421940561399407m_-2483322641481597431yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533151801267_4503" style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">          <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div></div></div></div><span class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
KB mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:KB@kbjournal.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">KB@kbjournal.org</a><br class="">
<a href="http://kbjournal.org/mailman/listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" class="">http://kbjournal.org/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org</a><br class="">
</span></blockquote></div>
<br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
KB mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:KB@kbjournal.org" class="">KB@kbjournal.org</a><br class="">
<a href="http://kbjournal.org/mailman/listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">http://kbjournal.org/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/kb_kbjournal.org</a><br class="">
<br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Herbert W. Simons, Ph.D.<br class="">Emeritus Professor of Communication<br class="">Dep't of  Strategic Communication, Weiss Hall 215<br class="">Temple University, Philadelphia 19122<br class="">Home phone: 215 844 5969<br class=""><a href="http://astro.temple.edu/%7Ehsimons" target="_blank" class="">http://astro.temple.edu/~hsimons</a><br class="">Academic Fellow, Center for Transformative Strategic Initiatives (CTSI)<br class=""><br class=""></div>
</div>
</div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>