[KB] other 1980s conferences with KB
wessr at oregonstate.edu
wessr at oregonstate.edu
Fri Nov 16 11:12:37 EST 2018
The "Rabbi Burke" dedication isn't in my Bloom books:
Book: Dedicated to:
Anxiety of Influence William K Wimsatt
Agon Harold Steinberg
Map of Misreading Paul de Man
Poetry and Repression Archie Randolph Ammons
Shelley's Mythmaking Frederick A Pottle
Bob
Quoting tompkinp at colorado.edu:
> That would have been a sight to see. I had several books in my personal
> library by Harold Bloom. One of them was dedicated to Rabbi Burke. The
> only one I can find is How to Read and Why, but it isn't the one. Can
> anyone recall which book Bloom dedicated to KB?
> Phil Tompkins
>
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> From: KB <kb-bounces at kbjournal.org> On Behalf Of Greig Henderson
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> To: 'Edward C Appel' <edwardcappel at frontier.com>; wessr at oregonstate.edu;
> 'sjmaillo' <sjmaillo at uci.edu>
> Cc: 'Robert Craig' <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>; p.mass at verizon.net; 'elanah
> naftali' <elanah.naftali at gmail.com>; 'Kathleen Hall Jamieson'
> <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>; kb at kbjournal.org; 'Fahy' <cdfahy at gmail.com>; 'KB'
> <kb-bounces at kbjournal.org>
> Subject: Re: [KB] other 1980s conferences with KB
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The Seton Hall affair included Harold Bloom, Denis Donoghue, J. Hillis
> Miller, Howard Nemerov, Paul Jay, and Ralph Ellison. The highlight for me
> was when Harold Bloom--speaking without notes about Burke and Emerson as
> American sages, not to mention citing Nietzsche and Freud from memory (in
> German)--stepped down from the podium to greet Burke, who was in the first
> row.
> He kissed Burke on the forehead and said "My rabbi." Ellison read from
> Juneteenth on the final evening. And David Williams can relate how Burke
> got entangled in his seat belt if memory serves.
>
> Cheers,
> Greig
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> From: KB [mailto:kb-bounces at kbjournal.org] On Behalf Of Edward C Appel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:04 AM
> To: wessr at oregonstate.edu; sjmaillo
> Cc: Robert Craig; p.mass at verizon.net; elanah naftali; Kathleen Hall
> Jamieson; kb at kbjournal.org; Fahy; KB
> Subject: Re: [KB] other 1980s conferences with KB
>
> Steve and All,
>
> Was not aware of the April, 1988, Conference on Burke and Heidegger, But in
> that decade---particularly between Temple in 1984 and New Harmony in
> 1990---there was a Burke Conference in literature at Seton Hall in December,
> 1986. I got there for one day. Herb attended, as well as, of course, Burke
> and some of the Burke family. A group of grad students came up from the
> South, along with their mentor (forget who), and got their picture taken
> with Burke. Harold Blum, Dennis Donoghue (sp?), and some other
> luminary(ies) gave presentations.
>
> Were any other Burke gatherings held exclusively in literature, besides
> Seton Hall and Johns Hopkins in 1978?
>
>
>
> Ed
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 11/13/18, sjmaillo <sjmaillo at uci.edu> wrote:
>
> Subject: other 1980s conferences with KB
> To: wessr at oregonstate.edu
> Cc: "Edward C Appel" <edwardcappel at frontier.com>, "Robert Craig"
> <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>, p.mass at verizon.net, "elanah naftali"
> <elanah.naftali at gmail.com>, "Kathleen Hall Jamieson"
> <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>, kb at kbjournal.org, "Fahy" <cdfahy at gmail.com>, "KB"
> <kb-bounces at kbjournal.org>
> Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 5:47 PM
>
> Ed, Bob, Herb, and others,
>
> Since you are talking about
> Burke at a 1984 conference, I was wondering if anyone out there has notes
> on or memories about another 1980s
> conference: the April
> 1988 Colloquium on Kenneth Burke and Martin Heidegger, organized by Don
> Burks. Don was kind enough to share some memories a few years ago, but
> I'm returning to the topic in some recent researching.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve
> Mailloux
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2018-11-13 13:39, wessr at oregonstate.edu
> wrote:
> > Ed,
> >
> > I checked my copy of the 1984 program. The conference was at the >
> Bellevue Stratford. You're right about that.
> >
>
> > Nelson appeared in one of the
> plenaries. The chair of his panel was
> >
> Charles Dyke. His fellow panelist was David Damrosch.
> >
> > Bennett also
> appeared in a plenary. His chair: Joseph Margolis. His > fellow panelist:
> Joseph Gusfield.
> >
> > Your memory may be
> better than mine.
> >
> >
> Bob
> >
> >
> > Quoting Edward C Appel <edwardcappel at frontier.com>:
> >
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> I don't
> remember Burke's interrupting Nelson. If he did so, Burke >> surely did
> not launch into a screed against what Nelson was saying.
> >> Could that have happened in one of the seminars?
> >>
> >>
> For sure, Burke did verbally attack Bennett. I got intersubjective >>
> support for that recollection from David Cratis Williams at last >> year's
> Triennial. I brought up that example of "feisty Burke" at our >> plenary
> "Memories of Burke"
> meeting. David gave us the "back story"
> >> on the matter. Burke was asked his
> opinion of the papers submitted,
> >>
> this even before the convention began, I believe. Burke said he liked >>
> them all except one.
> Who submitted that one, Burke was asked. "Lance, >> Lance, Lance," was
> Burke's reply >> >> I remember Bennett looking down at his ms. in
> obvious embarrassment, >> as Burke railed on, then, after Burke had got
> it all our of his >> spleen, continuing on without a word in response to
> Burke.
> >>
> >> We remember the unexpected, the
> unusual, the harrowingly
> >>
> out-of-the-ordinary,Chip and Dan Heath of Stanford said in their >> book,
> Make It Stick.
> Professor Blasy Ford explained it well in her >> Senate testimony. There's
> a rush of norepinephrine and another >> neurochemical whose name escapes
> me into the hippocampus in such >> moments. We don';t forget them.
> >>
> >> I don't remember who spoke before,
> or spoke after, Lance Bennett.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed . .
> >>
> --------------------------------------------
> >> On Mon, 11/12/18, <wessr at oregonstate.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> Subject: Re: [KB] Your papers
> >> To:
> "Edward C Appel" <edwardcappel at frontier.com> >> Cc: "Robert Craig"
> <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>, "David C. Williams"
> >>
> <dcwill at fau.edu>,
> "HERBERT W. Simons" <hsimons at temple.edu>,
>
> >> p.mass at verizon.net,
> kb at kbjournal.org,
> "Fahy" <cdfahy at gmail.com>,
>
> >> "Kathleen Hall Jamieson"
> <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>,
> "elanah naftali"
> >>
> <elanah.naftali at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Monday, November 12, 2018,
> 9:12 PM
> >>
> >>
> Hi all,
> >>
> >>
> Ed, my
> >> memory is that Burke
> interrupted Cary Nelson. He wanted Cary >> to >> explain
> poststructuralism in a more >> intelligible way. Maybe I'm wrong, >>
> but that is my memory.
> >>
> >>
> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Edward C Appel <edwardcappel at frontier.com>:
> >>
> >> >
> Herb,
> >> >
> >> > That March, 1984,
> >> Conference on Discourse Analysis,
> under the aegis
> >> > of Temple
> University, was held at the
> >>
> Bellevue Stratford, top floor
> >>
> > as I
> >> recall. It was a
> wonderful event, with feisty Burke standing >> up >> > and
> interrupting Lance Bennett >> with a blistering tirade in the >> > >>
> middle of Bennett's presentation. Powerful plenary >> lectures and >> >
> excellent seminars. I >> recall, too, postprandial addresses by both >>
>> Jamieson and---forgive me, I'm an old >> guy, the Burke scholar at >>
>> Colorado, >> his name now escapes me.
> >> >
> >> >
> The superb panel speeches last year at
> >> East Stroudsburg involving
> >> > the
> >>
> young'uns bodes well for the future of Burke studies.
> >> >
> >> >
> You and Trevor did a
> >> great job on
> that gathering, and on the book that ensued >> > >> > >> > >> > Ed
>>> > >>
> --------------------------------------------
> >> > On Mon, 11/12/18, HERBERT W.
> Simons <hsimons at temple.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> > Subject:
> >> [KB] Your papers
> >> > To: "Robert
> >> Craig" <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>, >> "David C. Williams"
> >> > <dcwill at fau.edu>
> >> > Cc: p.mass at verizon.net,
> >> kb at kbjournal.org,
> >> "Fahy"
> >> > <cdfahy at gmail.com>,
> >> "Kathleen Hall
> Jamieson"
> >> >
> >> <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>,
> >> "elanah naftali" <elanah.naftali at gmail.com> >> > Date: Monday,
> November 12, 2018, 8:44 >> AM >> > >> > Dear >> colleagues,I'd
> like to have e-mailed >> > copies of your papers.
> >> >
> At the Burke "parlor"
> >>
> > meeting 10-12 young people as well as >> Roundtree and Thames >> >
> convened to >> discuss matters Burkean. I played the old man >> > and
> regaled them with memories of that >> first Burke >> > conference:
> e.g., >> the charlatan "doctor"
> who
> >> >
> >> attached himself to KB at the
> Williams conference,
> >> moved
> >> > in with him, and helped
> him
> >> navigate steps. We
> registered
> >> > him and
> >> didn't charge him the entry fee,
> at his
> >> > request.
> >> > It
> >>
> turned out that he was a
> >> >
> collector of
> >> important people,
> as our friend, Chris Fahy,
> >> >
> revealed to me.
> >> >
> >> KB's daughter, Eleanor
> Leacock
> >> >
> >> (sp?) was furious at me for
> entrusting KB to this
> >> >
> imposter. When asked whether he'd
> >> like the pseudo-doc to
> >> > be moved from
> >> his room, he said yes for the
> man's sake
> >> > since he
> had work to do.
> >> > I'd
> forgotten how many in our
> >> >
> field attended that first conference and >> participated in >> > it's
> small group >> seminars as well as it's plenaries, >> > at which a
> recurrent question was about >> "not vicious >> > but mistaken"
> >> and the issue of
> warrantable
> >> >
> >> outrage.
> >>
> > Note: I've got a book
> >>
> in
> >> > production called
> Rhetoric in
> >> Action, which will be
> made
> >> > available
> >> at no cost. Several of its essays
> are on my
> >> > website, which
> can be found by googllng
> >> my
> name.
> >> > Psychologist Ken
> Gergen
> >> superintended the
> project.
> >> > Richard
> >> Thames recalled that it was
> >> > held at
> >> the Bellevue Stratford Hotel in
> Phila but I
> >> > recall that
> it was the Barclay, an older
> >>
> hotel.In deference to KB with his
> >>
> >
> >> drinking problem we served
> grape juice at the banquet.
> >>
> > Kathleen Jamieson's toast:
> >> > "Language may do our
> thinking
> >> > for us but it
> cannot do our drinking for
> >>
> us." As for
> >> > the
> "doc",
> >> he spent the
> night in a bathtub,
> >> >
> >> compliments of the organizers. On
> the last night of the
> >> >
> conference, when the KB Society was
> >> formed. he approached
> >> > Harry
> >> Chapin's wife with a hug and she
> reciprocated
> >> >
> diplomatically, not knowing what else to >> do.
> >>
> > I can't say enough about
> >> the
> >>
> > young scholars who participated
> >> in the NCA convention's
> >> >
> >>
> "Burke Parlor." For those concerned about the >> > future of Burke
> studies, rest assured, >> this next generation >> > is highly >>
> competent and motivated.
> >> > Note:
> >> I've got a book in
> >> > production
> >> called Rhetoric in Action, which
> will be made
> >> > available at
> no cost. Several of its
> >> essays
> are on my
> >> > website, which
> can
> >> be found by googllng my
> name.
> >> >
> >> Psychologist Ken Gergen
> superintended the project.
> >>
> >
> >> > --
> >> > Herbert
> >> > W.
> >>
> Simons, Ph.D.
> >> > Emeritus
> Professor of
> >> Communication
> >> > Dep't of
> >> Strategic Communication, Weiss Hall
> 215
> >> > Temple University,
> Philadelphia 19122
> >> > Home
> phone: 215 844 5969
> >> > http://astro.temple.edu/~hsimons >> > Academic Fellow, Center
> for >> Transformative Strategic >> > Initiatives >> (CTSI) >> > >>
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