[KB] Your papers

Mon Nov 12 15:01:28 EST 2018

Ed,
The other person might have been Joseph Gusfield, a prominent sociologist,
who wrote a book on Burke for U Chi Press.Not present at the conferences
were the anthropologists, who'd held their own conferences on Burke, with
metaphors and other tropes featured. Richard Shweder from UCP excelled.
On both sides of the Atlantic a dozen or more other Burke conferences.
Thanks to Donald (now Deirdre)
McCloskey I was invited to speak at several other conferences: on rhetoric
of economics at Wellesley, where Stanley Fish yelled "no consequences"
after my research for that conference compared 3-4 ways by which Mobil
advertorialized it's positions by way of print news, arguments for Mobil's
positions on issues presented as TV News, and a highly creative, very
expensive, and aneffective format,Fables for Now, featuring cartoon animals
and dancers. Most effective were the print ads.

For five days or so U of Iowa held a "Symposium on Rhetoric" featuring such
notables as Kuhn and Rorty, andbroadcasted it. A great many disciplines
were represented, not least mathematics and accounting. Out of the
symposium came Nelson et al's Rhetoric of the Human sciences (UW Press)
Nelson presented the forerunners of the conferences as extensions of the
Greco-Roman sophistic tradition. I was a lowly respondent at that
conference and wrote for QJS "Chronicle and Critique of a conference."Later
my colleagues in English held another conference on
rhetoric. See also my edited collections of "rhetsci" essays.

Other such forums met in the UK; then on the Continent. And there were
conferences on rhetoric by other names such as science studies. I was
fortunate to meet up with the "Rhetoric of Inquiry" scholars on both sides
of the Atlantic.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM Edward C Appel <edwardcappel at frontier.com>
wrote:

> Herb,
>
> That March, 1984, Conference on Discourse Analysis, under the aegis of
> Temple University, was held at the Bellevue Stratford, top floor as I
> recall. It was a wonderful event, with feisty Burke standing up and
> interrupting Lance Bennett with a blistering tirade in the middle of
> Bennett's presentation. Powerful plenary lectures and excellent seminars. I
> recall, too, postprandial addresses by both Jamieson and---forgive me, I'm
> an old guy, the Burke scholar at Colorado, his name now escapes me.
>
> The superb panel speeches last year at East Stroudsburg involving the
> young'uns bodes well for the future of Burke studies.
>
> You and Trevor did a great job on that gathering, and on the book that
> ensued
>
>
>
> Ed
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 11/12/18, HERBERT W. Simons <hsimons at temple.edu> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [KB] Your papers
>  To: "Robert Craig" <Robert.Craig at colorado.edu>, "David C. Williams" <
> dcwill at fau.edu>
>  Cc: p.mass at verizon.net, kb at kbjournal.org, "Fahy" <cdfahy at gmail.com>,
> "Kathleen Hall Jamieson" <kjamieson at asc.upenn.edu>, "elanah naftali" <
> elanah.naftali at gmail.com>
>  Date: Monday, November 12, 2018, 8:44 AM
>
>  Dear colleagues,I'd like to have e-mailed
>  copies of your papers.
>   At the Burke "parlor"
>  meeting 10-12 young people as well as Roundtree and Thames
>  convened to discuss matters Burkean. I played the old man
>  and regaled them with memories of that first Burke
>  conference: e.g., the charlatan "doctor" who
>  attached himself to KB at the Williams conference,  moved
>  in with him, and helped him navigate steps. We registered
>  him and didn't charge him the entry fee, at his
>  request.
>  It turned out that he was a
>  collector of important people,  as our friend, Chris Fahy,
>  revealed to me.
>  KB's daughter, Eleanor Leacock
>  (sp?) was furious at me for entrusting  KB to this
>  imposter. When asked whether he'd like the pseudo-doc to
>  be moved from his room, he said yes for the man's sake
>  since he had work to do.
>  I'd forgotten how many in our
>  field attended that first conference and participated in
>  it's small group seminars as well as it's plenaries,
>  at which a recurrent question was about "not vicious
>  but mistaken" and the issue of warrantable
>  outrage.
>  Note: I've got a book in
>  production called Rhetoric in Action, which will be made
>  available at no cost. Several of its essays are on my
>  website, which can be found by googllng my name.
>  Psychologist Ken Gergen superintended the project.
>  Richard Thames recalled that it was
>  held at the Bellevue Stratford Hotel in Phila but  I
>  recall that it was the Barclay, an older hotel.In deference to KB with his
>  drinking problem we served grape juice at the banquet.
>  Kathleen Jamieson's toast:
>  "Language may do our thinking
>  for us but it cannot do our drinking for us." As for
>  the "doc", he spent the night in a bathtub,
>  compliments of the organizers. On the last night of the
>  conference, when the KB Society was formed. he approached
>  Harry Chapin's wife with a hug and she reciprocated
>  diplomatically, not knowing what else to do.
>  I can't say enough about the
>  young scholars who participated in the NCA convention's
>  "Burke Parlor." For those concerned about the
>  future of Burke studies, rest assured, this next generation
>  is highly competent and motivated.
>  Note: I've got a book in
>  production called Rhetoric in Action, which will be made
>  available at no cost. Several of its essays are on my
>  website, which can be found by googllng my name.
>  Psychologist Ken Gergen superintended the project.
>
>  --
>  Herbert
>  W. Simons, Ph.D.
>  Emeritus Professor of Communication
>  Dep't of  Strategic Communication, Weiss Hall 215
>  Temple University, Philadelphia 19122
>  Home phone: 215 844 5969
>  http://astro.temple.edu/~hsimons
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>  Initiatives (CTSI)
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Herbert W. Simons, Ph.D.
Emeritus Professor of Communication
Dep't of  Strategic Communication, Weiss Hall 215
Temple University, Philadelphia 19122
Home phone: 215 844 5969
http://astro.temple.edu/~hsimons
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