[KB] Potential KB history projects

David Erland Isaksen daviderland at gmail.com
Tue Nov 28 04:27:35 EST 2017


Never mind, saw the recording link now
http://www.ubu.com/historical/wrtma/listen.htm



On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:24 AM, David Erland Isaksen <
daviderland at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks. As I said, forgive my rookie mistakes ;) Is there a recording of
> this available somewhere?
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Jack Selzer <jls25 at psu.edu> wrote:
>
>> On April 8-9, 1949, Burke appeared at the two-day Western Roundtable on
>> Modern Art (all expenses paid), for an honorarium of $100. Other notables
>> in the roundtable conversation were Gregory Bateson, George Boas, Marcel
>> Duchamp, Arnold Schoenberg, Mark Tobey, and Frank Lloyd Wright.
>>
>> See http://www.ubu.com/historical/wrtma/index.html
>>
>>
>> Jack Selzer
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>> Department of English
>> Penn State University
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Clarke Rountree" <rountrj at uah.edu>
>> *To: *"David Erland Isaksen" <daviderland at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *"kb" <kb at kbjournal.org>
>> *Sent: *Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14:03 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [KB] Potential KB history projects
>>
>> Hi David,
>> KB told me the same thing about Levi's plagiarism in 1986. I delivered a
>> paper on the Levi issue at NCA in 2014. It turns out that the timing is not
>> very supportive of the charge. Levi published this short book as an article
>> in the U of Chicago Law Review in Spring 1948, before Burke visited Chicago
>> (where Levi was). Correspondence has Jerome Frank recommending the Grammar
>> to Levi AFTER Levi published the article but before he published the book
>> version; but no changes were made and Levi does not mention to Frank that
>> he's read Burke. Finally, and importantly, Levi's position ignores some
>> important points Burke makes about constitutions, so if he did steal from
>> Burke he did a lousy job. Ideas about the law and constitutions being
>> contradictory in their values and goals were developed by the Legal
>> Realists decades earlier, so Levi didn't need Burke for that.
>>
>> Clarke
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:13 AM, David Erland Isaksen <
>> daviderland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I discovered some rather interesting small tidbits of information which
>>> could spin off research projects that are beyond my specialty, but would be
>>> great contributions to Burke scholarship (if they haven't already been
>>> done).
>>>
>>> 1. *An Introduction to Legal Reasoning* by Edward H. Levi actually
>>> plagiarizes Kenneth Burke's Constitution section of *A* *Grammar of
>>> Motives. *According to Kenneth Burke, the author (Edward H. Levi, even
>>> admitted that he borrowed his concept and a lot of material from Burke's
>>> book (without attribution, I might add), and his excuse was that "you are
>>> not really in my field, therefore it would not have looked good if I had
>>> cited you." This text has become a classic and go-to guide in law schools
>>> (and is still being used very frequently (https://www.amazon.com/Introd
>>> uction-Legal-Reasoning-Edward-Levi/dp/022608972X). Some call it one of
>>> the foundational texts in modern legal theory.
>>>
>>> Burke mentions this in a letter to Watson in February 1950.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Kenneth Burke participated in a broadcast (or two broadcasts). One is
>>> clearly mentioned as occuring at the San Fransisco Scool of Fine Arts April
>>> 8th and 9th, 1949. It is possible that there is still a recording of that
>>> available.
>>> It may be the same one he is referring to later in a December 1949
>>> letter.
>>>
>>> Like I said, this may have been covered before. In that case, please
>>> forgive me for my rookie mistakes ;)
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> David Isaksen
>>> University of Agder
>>> University College of Southeast Norway
>>> www.intelligenceofpersuasion.blogspot.com
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>>
>>
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