[KB] Incomplete Nature
Edward C Appel
edwardcappel at frontier.com
Thu Aug 7 16:27:22 EDT 2014
Hello, Ronald,
Thanks so much for your incisive and supportive response! As you say, Deacon's very well received book not only opens a door for conversation between Burkeans/rhetoricians/literary scholars and anthropologists, even biological anthropologists like Deacon. His book gives hope, if even a small one, of being a game-changer in the call for some hint of "conscilence" among the hard and social sciences and the humanities. C. P. Snow voiced that hope in 1959. E. O. Wilson echoed that cri de coeur in the late 1990s.
Thanks again, and enjoy your vacation!
Ed
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On Thu, 8/7/14, Ronald Soetaert <Ronald.Soetaert at UGent.be> wrote:
Subject: Re: [KB] Incomplete Nature
To: "Edward C Appel" <edwardcappel at frontier.com>
Cc: "Clarke Rountree" <rountrj at uah.edu>, "kb at kbjournal.org" <kb at kbjournal.org>
Date: Thursday, August 7, 2014, 3:20 PM
Dear colleagues,
I couldn’t agree more with
Ed Apple’s plea for reading Terence Deacon and linking his
ideas with Kenneth Burke’s perspective on humans as symbol
using animals. Just for your information this link was a
central topic in our presentations in two conferences we
(Kris Rutten and I) attended: The Generative Anthropolgy
Summer Conference 2014 (June, 19-22 -Victoria. Canada) and
KBS 2014: Attitudes Toward Technology/Technology’s
Attitudes (July, 17-22 St Louis). I learned about the work
of Terence Deacon from Richard Van Oort (see his book ‘The
End of Literature’). At that moment I was working on a
presentation (as part of a price I received in Belgium)
about the future of the humanities. Because I also wanted to
convince my colleagues from the ‘hard sciences’ I
started with the work of Deacon and the importance of the
concepts sign-symbol.
Again, it was Richard Van Oort who introduced me in
Deacon’s perspectives (from his work The Symbolic
Species). As Ed Apple has argued, we were also intrigued by
the possibility of linking ideas from Deacon (biology) and
ideas from Burke (rhetoric). So we mailed Richard Van Oort
to invite him for our panel during the Burke Conference in
St Louis (meanwhile we had discovered that although Richard
would not describe himself as a Burkophile, he is certainly
also fascinated by the work of Burke – see his review of
Burke’s essays on Shakespeare). Richard agreed to come to
the Burke conference (with a contribution in our panel
“Bodies that learn language”: Rhetoric, Education and
Anthropology). But before the Burke conference he invited us
‘his’ conference: The Generative Anthropolgy Summer
Conference 2014 (June, 19-22). Victoria. Canada http://web.uvic.ca/gasc2014/index.html
Part of our abstract,
illustrated what we tried to do: “The major question of
our research is what we might learn from ‘works of
imaginative literature’ (Gibson 2007: 1), or other
cultural artefacts such as films, games, cartoons and
graphic novels. We also concur with Richard van Oort (2004:
622) who suggests that an anthropological perspective causes
an increasing focus in literary studies on culture as an
object of symbolic interpretation: ‘For who is better
trained than the literary critic in the exercise of
searching for symbolic significance, of reading beyond the
literal surface to see the deeper, more sacred meaning
beneath?’ etc.”
During
the presentation (in Vicoria and St Louis), described turns
in the humanities/social science and analysed the role of
rhetoric as a major perspective. Therefore we suggested that
the symbolic turn could be a major perspective. So we tried
to link rhetorical perspectives with anthropological
perspectives (referring to the work of Van Oort). We
suggested we should enter into a dialogue with
biology/science (see Deacon). But we also suggested we
should try to defend the importance of the humanities.
Therefore we quoted Van Oort: “it is literally quite true
that without the mediating presence of the originary scene
of symbolic representation—‘textuality,’ if one
likes—there is no humanity and therefore no object of
study”.
Again, I would
like to link this with the review and suggestions of Ed
Apple. By the way: also my thanks to Ed Apple for sharing
his thoughts.
Of course we
could elaborate more on all this but Kris and I are on a
holiday now, but I could not resist to send a quick mail
with some information of our work and plans. And of course
agreeing with Ed Apple's suggestions.
In fact Kris Rutten and I were planning to
make this perspective a central theme for a follow up
conference in Ghent… Ed Apple’s mail convinces us this
could be an interesting perspective.
Greetings
Ronald Soetaert
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